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Posted by Lockewarrior   USA  (9 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Thu 16 Sep 2010 08:29 PM (UTC)
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Greetings!

I just wanted to let everyone know that using the latest versions of MUSHclient, Wine, and Ubuntu as of 09/16/2010, everything worked perfectly out of box.

I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 32bit with LTS.

I opened Software Sources from the System>Administration panel and added, under the other software tab: ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa

Add source, close, and packages are updated.

Now just run apt://wine1.3 and wine will be installed.

Next, I saved MUSHclient 4.61 to my desktop, right clicked it, and ran it with Wine windows program launcher.

MUSH started by loading the dictionary sql database, displaying the first run prompt, and MUSHclient help. I was very impressed to see the help run correctly.

This is a painless install and runs fantastic. Thanks Nick.

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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #1 on Thu 16 Sep 2010 10:52 PM (UTC)
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Good to get positive feedback. Glad it worked so well.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #2 on Tue 12 Oct 2010 05:13 AM (UTC)
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Not everything.

Accounting for minor differences...
MUSHclient 4.64, Ubuntu 10.10, Wine 1.3 (or 1.2) doesn't render 3D (action 5) windowrectops properly. I had to switch back to wine1.0 to get things to look right.

See below for a comparison of Wine 1.0 and Wine 1.2/1.3.

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3923/comparison.png

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #3 on Tue 12 Oct 2010 05:19 AM (UTC)
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Upgrade - swap your old bugs for new ones, huh?

Sounds like a Wine problem. Fiendish, to be the most compatible you should probably skip the fancy "3D" actions (which rely upon the operating system's libraries to a greater extent) and do simple lines and rectangles to achieve the same end result. The speed difference wouldn't be much, and they are unlikely to not render a simple line or rectangle properly.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #4 on Tue 12 Oct 2010 02:13 PM (UTC)
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Nick Gammon said:
Upgrade - swap your old bugs for new ones, huh?


Looks like. The list of regressions in new versions of Wine seems pretty extensive. :\

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Mudder   (7 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #5 on Tue 12 Oct 2010 02:42 PM (UTC)
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I use Fedora 13 and wine version 1.3.1

Everything works great. Haven't had any issues yet. Though admittedly I haven't pushed any envelopes with the program.
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #6 on Tue 12 Oct 2010 08:15 PM (UTC)
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Looks like it could be a bug in the newer intel graphics driver. Some new code in Wine tickles it. Bleh.

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Rakon   USA  (123 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #7 on Sat 16 Oct 2010 03:24 PM (UTC)

Amended on Sat 16 Oct 2010 03:38 PM (UTC) by Rakon

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Unfortunatly, I have a few bugs with this same setup.

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 2.6.32-25-generic x64
Wine 1.3
MUSHclient 4.61

When I enter any dialog for editing, triggers,variables,aliases etc, MUSHClient will crash.
EDIT: 6k character limit, can't post it here.

http://pastie.org/1225802


Tested with wine1.0, and Mushclient 4.61. Crashed as well, same error I believe.

http://pastie.org/1225830

Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
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Posted by Worstje   Netherlands  (899 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #8 on Sat 16 Oct 2010 06:10 PM (UTC)
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How about older MUSHclient versions? Do they exhibit these issues? Can you figure out exact MUSHclient versions that start causing the problem?

Looking at the backtraces, I can say nothing more than 'wine bugs'. All the crashes have backtraces leading to Microsoft DLLs (or in this case, wine varieties of them), and apparently MUSHclient triggers some kind of bug in those.

So, even if we can't fix the issue, you can give a specific regression report to the wine team with the information that gives us, since for the versions released in the last year or so we Nick has had a nifty version control set up.
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Posted by Rakon   USA  (123 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #9 on Sat 16 Oct 2010 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Thanks for the reply.

I've tested as far back as the last version of Mush and wine that I know to work, wine1.0 and Mush 4.52. So that does tell me this has to be a Wine issue, and perhaps I'm just not correctly overwriting an older DLL or something from wine cache.

I'll look into it further, but if anyone has a few ideas on what I could to do correct the issue, I'd appreciate it as well.

Essentially, I believe this (as Worstje said) is a Wine bug, not a Mush bug.

Thanks.

Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
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Posted by Worstje   Netherlands  (899 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #10 on Sat 16 Oct 2010 08:23 PM (UTC)
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Glad to help.

Just to be complete, however, I will point out that you can get pretty much every release of MUSHclient ever from http://gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/, so if you want to narrow it down further, that's the way to go.
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Posted by Rakon   USA  (123 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #11 on Sat 16 Oct 2010 09:07 PM (UTC)
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Okay, I've continued testing this.

The setup that works is:

wine1.2
Mushclient4.50

Anything over Mush 4.50 will give me that crash error on a dialog. If I try Mush 4.50 with wine1.0 , it works as well, just have different problems with scrollback.

I'm not entirely sure what the changes where that make these versions work correctly, but so far, so good.


Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #12 on Sun 17 Oct 2010 01:57 AM (UTC)
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What "emulation" mode do you have Wine set at (and I know Wine Is Not an Emulator)? I thought Windows 95/98 used to work.

That might change the way it emulates the library behaviour.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Rakon   USA  (123 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #13 on Sun 17 Oct 2010 04:29 AM (UTC)
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Nick:

I changed it and ran MUSH on each version to check, from Win 98 -> Win XP. Seems to have the same issue though, which is why I stated it may have been me, not correctly setting or seeing a DLL override. I'll try again in tomorrow, and post up the settings and traceback for each here, when I do.

Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #14 on Tue 19 Oct 2010 06:37 AM (UTC)
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I just downloaded Ubuntu 10.10 (the latest version) - which took a few hours. Then I installed Wine 1.2 (the latest offered by Ubuntu). Then I installed MUSHclient 4.64 (the latest right now).

It all seems to work fine - no crashes, the notepad works, dialog boxes come up OK.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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