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Posted by Sir Phoenix   (4 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Wed 15 Nov 2006 10:49 PM (UTC)
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I use Discworld as a mud, atuin.discworld.net 23, and some of the color tags don't work. In some things you may make your own colors with the format %^RED%^Text%^RESET%^, which forces it to be red, or %^USER_RED%^TEXT%^USER_RESET%^, which allows the text to be whatever you specify red is.

This is an example of what I see in with Mushclient (latest version 3.82)

USER_~*USER_~ BWB 272 ~*USER_~USER_,
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #1 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 12:10 AM (UTC)
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What is a "pinkfish MXP tag"? In the text you pasted, what is the expected behavior? Which part of that do you think is the "text" part?

David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Sir Phoenix   (4 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #2 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 12:42 AM (UTC)
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USER_~*USER_~ BWB 272 ~*USER_~USER_

Is supposed to ~*~ BWB 272 ~*~. Where you see "USER_" is Mushclient misinterpreting a code %^USER_RED%^ or %^USER_BOLD%^. And even if they do %^RED%^What you want to say%^RESET%^, then while the USER_ won't show, the color won't change either.
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #3 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 01:43 AM (UTC)
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To my knowledge, %^USER_BOLD%^ and %^USER_RED%^ are not valid MXP tags. Why do you expect these to get translated to color codes?

Is Pinkfish some kind of alternate MXP standard?

David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Sir Phoenix   (4 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #4 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 02:12 AM (UTC)
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Even then... I was on a different mud that also used the %^RED%^ %^RESET%^ %^BOLD%^ format, and I viewed that just fine through mushclient. I can live without the user_blah tags, but what about the others? They should work, but don't.
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #5 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 02:24 AM (UTC)
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I cannot answer your question precisely because you still haven't yet told me what Pinkfish MXP tags are. I guess that the other MUD isn't broken, but this MUD is broken and isn't parsing the tags correctly.

I strongly suspect that this is an issue with the MUD server, not MUSHclient. As I said, %^RED%^ is not an MXP tag and MUSHclient would have no idea what to do with it. The fact that the other one is working shows that the server is doing something different before sending the text to the client.


You could try turning on packet debugging and seeing what the working server is actually sending the client.

David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Sir Phoenix   (4 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #6 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 03:32 PM (UTC)

Amended on Thu 16 Nov 2006 07:39 PM (UTC) by Nick Gammon

Message
Here's a definition of Pinkfish codes:

http://mud.stack.nl/intermud/pinkfish.html


Sent  packet: 10 (8 bytes)

whoami..           77 68 6f 61 6d 69 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 15 (261 bytes)

You are Elusive    59 6f 75 20 61 72 65 20 45 6c 75 73 69 76 65 20
Sprynx DeNightsh   53 70 72 79 6e 78 20 44 65 4e 69 67 68 74 73 68
ade the Monitor    61 64 65 20 74 68 65 20 4d 6f 6e 69 74 6f 72 20
of Prowlers of t   6f 66 20 50 72 6f 77 6c 65 72 73 20 6f 66 20 74
he Thieves' Guil   68 65 20 54 68 69 65 76 65 73 27 20 47 75 69 6c
d, Charming Pilf   64 2c 20 43 68 61 72 6d 69 6e 67 20 50 69 6c 66
erer.[39;49m.[m,   65 72 65 72 1b 5b 33 39 3b 34 39 6d 1b 5b 6d 2c
 Reporter for th   20 52 65 70 6f 72 74 65 72 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68
e AM Daily, Arms   65 20 41 4d 20 44 61 69 6c 79 2c 20 41 72 6d 73
 Dealer.[39;49m.   20 44 65 61 6c 65 72 1b 5b 33 39 3b 34 39 6d 1b
[m..[4z<BR>> .[4   5b 6d 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52 3e 3e 20 1b 5b 34
z<!ENTITY hp 147   7a 3c 21 45 4e 54 49 54 59 20 68 70 20 31 34 37
6 max=1476>.[4z<   36 20 6d 61 78 3d 31 34 37 36 3e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c
!ENTITY xp 12041   21 45 4e 54 49 54 59 20 78 70 20 31 32 30 34 31
51>.[4z<!ENTITY    35 31 3e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 21 45 4e 54 49 54 59 20
gp 381 max=381>.   67 70 20 33 38 31 20 6d 61 78 3d 33 38 31 3e 1b
[3z..              5b 33 7a ff f9


Here's an example: This player title should be colored. It should read,

You are Elusive Sprynx DeNightshade the Monitor of Prowlers of the Thieves' Guild, %^BLUE%^Charming Pilferer%^RESET%^, Reporter for the AM Daily, Arms Dealer.

making the "Charming Pilferer" portion blue. If I access the mud using telnet, everything is colored as it should be. If I use other mud clients, it also reflects properly. Of course, my client of choice is MUSHclient, so I hope there's a client-side solution I can implement.
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Posted by David Haley   USA  (3,881 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #7 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 07:41 PM (UTC)
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OK, thank you for the reference. Now, you're saying that the USER_RED tags are supposed to be handled client-side? The page you gave me doesn't mention them, so I'm not sure how they are precisely defined.

On the MUD where things work, do you have to first tell the MUD what you think USER_RED should be? e.g. setcolor USER_RED RED or whatever.


One thing you could try is to disable MXP support in MUSHclient and then see if you get colors. What might be happening is that they're detecting MUSHclient's MXP support, and then sending the "misbehaving" MXP tags that MUSHclient doesn't know how to handle.

The fact that it works on one MUD but not the other suggests strongly to me that the broken MUD is doing something wrong server-side. MUSHclient tends to be very picky about following standards precisely, so if they're doing something even subtly wrong it can lead to odd behavior.

At this point, the best would probably be for Nick to say if he's ever heard of these Pinkfish tags, and if he knows more than more about what's going on.

David Haley aka Ksilyan
Head Programmer,
Legends of the Darkstone

http://david.the-haleys.org
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,321 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #8 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 07:51 PM (UTC)
Message
It looks to me that is isn't sending the colour codes. Check out this part:


he Thieves' Guil   68 65 20 54 68 69 65 76 65 73 27 20 47 75 69 6c
d, Charming Pilf   64 2c 20 43 68 61 72 6d 69 6e 67 20 50 69 6c 66
erer.[39;49m.[m,   65 72 65 72 1b 5b 33 39 3b 34 39 6d 1b 5b 6d 2c


You can see that after "Thieves' Guild," there is no colour code before the words "Charming Pilferer". However after "Charming Pilferer" is "[39;49m" which is "ANSI set foreground default, ANSI set background default".

So, it is sending the reset but not the colour change.

Why, I don't know. Some server authors code in checks for the client type. You say it works for other clients, but as you can see from the packet dump the codes simply aren't there.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,321 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #9 on Thu 16 Nov 2006 07:54 PM (UTC)
Message
Quote:

Now, you're saying that the USER_RED tags are supposed to be handled client-side? The page you gave me doesn't mention them, so I'm not sure how they are precisely defined.


It looks to me that the server is doing a simple text substitution of stuff like %^RED%^ and changing it to ESC [ 31 m, thus enabling you to sneak ANSI codes into your text easily. It certainly seems to be working for %^RESET%^.

Now if it didn't work for any client, I would say they have forgotten %^BLUE%^, but I can't explain why some clients work and some don't, apart from some odd code that, if it is MUSHclient, don't send the code for blue.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Hoax   (14 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #10 on Thu 23 Apr 2009 04:07 AM (UTC)

Amended on Thu 23 Apr 2009 04:15 AM (UTC) by Hoax

Message
Might be on entirely different problem, but still on Discworld Mud (Pinkfish) and MXP.

When I send a text into the output using Note or ColourTell, if the next lines received is not colour coded (that is white on black), then those lines will follow the colour code of the previous Note or ColourTell.

For example, when I ColourTell("green", "black", "string"), then all the text received after that will also be green on black, as long as the text received is not colour coded.

It also happens after URLs that is passed through the Hyperlink_URL2, which uses ColourTell.

Is there anyway to close the colour tag after each ColourTell or Note? Or this is a problem with the mud server?

Thanks!
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Posted by Hoax   (14 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #11 on Thu 23 Apr 2009 04:36 AM (UTC)
Message
Seems I found another bug (or not). I have the following trigger:

<triggers>
<trigger
back_colour="8"
enabled="y"
group="Redirect - Chats"
match="*(*)*wisps*"
match_back_colour="y"
match_text_colour="y"
name="chat1Green"
omit_from_output="y"
script="redirect"
sequence="4"
text_colour="10"
>
</trigger>
</triggers>

After a ColourTell or ColourNote (or Note), a line with green on black colour code:

(One) Guest wisps: blablabla

won't be triggered. The line received after that goes back to normal.

Everything works fine with MXP disabled.

Cheers!
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,321 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #12 on Thu 23 Apr 2009 06:25 AM (UTC)
Message
The first thing I would do is go to the MXP world configuration tab, and set the MXP Debug Level to "warnings". Then reproduce the problem, and see if any errors or warnings are visible in the text window which may appear.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Hoax   (14 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #13 on Thu 23 Apr 2009 07:30 AM (UTC)
Message
Did that, no warning/error whatsoever.

I created a plugin that simply send a ColourTell and a Note, and works flawless. Will try moving the whole lot into a plugin and see if it works.

Thanks for the quick reply!
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Posted by Hoax   (14 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #14 on Fri 24 Apr 2009 05:21 AM (UTC)

Amended on Fri 24 Apr 2009 06:16 AM (UTC) by Hoax

Message
So, I try to recolour and edit combat/melee output, which again, use ColourNote. Somehow, the trigger doesn't want to pick up every second backstab hit. But it works fine with melee combat. Everything works fine when I connect without using MXP. Here's the output and captured debug packets, the one in () is my comment:

backstab salesman
You sneak around the interesting Fang salesman without being spotted and manage to catch him by surprise.
(The line below is picked up by the trigger, edited and recoloured using ColourNote)
S2: Catching him by surprise, you stab one of your Silhouettes right through the interesting Fang salesman's neck.
(The line below is not picked up the the trigger)
Moving quickly, you run the interesting Fang salesman through the neck with one of your Silhouettes.
(The line below is picked up by the trigger, edited and recoloured using ColourNote)
P6: With surprising speed, you run the interesting Fang salesman through the neck with one of your Silhouettes.
(The line below is not picked up the the trigger)
With surprising speed, you run the interesting Fang salesman through the neck with one of your Silhouettes.
You killed the interesting Fang salesman.

backstab salesma   62 61 63 6b 73 74 61 62 20 73 61 6c 65 73 6d 61
n..                6e 0d 0a

Incoming packet: 74 (782 bytes) at Friday, April 24, 2009, 12:59:03 PM

You sneak around   59 6f 75 20 73 6e 65 61 6b 20 61 72 6f 75 6e 64
 the interesting   20 74 68 65 20 69 6e 74 65 72 65 73 74 69 6e 67
 Fang salesman w   20 46 61 6e 67 20 73 61 6c 65 73 6d 61 6e 20 77
ithout being spo   69 74 68 6f 75 74 20 62 65 69 6e 67 20 73 70 6f
tted and manage    74 74 65 64 20 61 6e 64 20 6d 61 6e 61 67 65 20
to catch him by    74 6f 20 63 61 74 63 68 20 68 69 6d 20 62 79 20
surprise..[4z<BR   73 75 72 70 72 69 73 65 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52
>.[37mCatching h   3e 1b 5b 33 37 6d 43 61 74 63 68 69 6e 67 20 68
im by surprise,    69 6d 20 62 79 20 73 75 72 70 72 69 73 65 2c 20
you stab one of    79 6f 75 20 73 74 61 62 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20
your Silhouettes   79 6f 75 72 20 53 69 6c 68 6f 75 65 74 74 65 73
 right through t   20 72 69 67 68 74 20 74 68 72 6f 75 67 68 20 74
he interesting F   68 65 20 69 6e 74 65 72 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 46
ang salesman's n   61 6e 67 20 73 61 6c 65 73 6d 61 6e 27 73 20 6e
eck..[4z<BR>.[39   65 63 6b 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52 3e 1b 5b 33 39
;49m.[0;10m.[37m   3b 34 39 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 31 30 6d 1b 5b 33 37 6d
Moving quickly,    4d 6f 76 69 6e 67 20 71 75 69 63 6b 6c 79 2c 20
you run the inte   79 6f 75 20 72 75 6e 20 74 68 65 20 69 6e 74 65
resting Fang sal   72 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 46 61 6e 67 20 73 61 6c
esman through th   65 73 6d 61 6e 20 74 68 72 6f 75 67 68 20 74 68
e neck with one    65 20 6e 65 63 6b 20 77 69 74 68 20 6f 6e 65 20
of your Silhouet   6f 66 20 79 6f 75 72 20 53 69 6c 68 6f 75 65 74
tes..[4z<BR>.[39   74 65 73 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52 3e 1b 5b 33 39
;49m.[0;10m.[37m   3b 34 39 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 31 30 6d 1b 5b 33 37 6d
With surprising    57 69 74 68 20 73 75 72 70 72 69 73 69 6e 67 20
speed, you run t   73 70 65 65 64 2c 20 79 6f 75 20 72 75 6e 20 74
he interesting F   68 65 20 69 6e 74 65 72 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 46
ang salesman thr   61 6e 67 20 73 61 6c 65 73 6d 61 6e 20 74 68 72
ough the neck wi   6f 75 67 68 20 74 68 65 20 6e 65 63 6b 20 77 69
th one of your S   74 68 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20 79 6f 75 72 20 53
ilhouettes..[4z<   69 6c 68 6f 75 65 74 74 65 73 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c
BR>.[39;49m.[0;1   42 52 3e 1b 5b 33 39 3b 34 39 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 31
0m.[37mWith surp   30 6d 1b 5b 33 37 6d 57 69 74 68 20 73 75 72 70
rising speed, yo   72 69 73 69 6e 67 20 73 70 65 65 64 2c 20 79 6f
u run the intere   75 20 72 75 6e 20 74 68 65 20 69 6e 74 65 72 65
sting Fang sales   73 74 69 6e 67 20 46 61 6e 67 20 73 61 6c 65 73
man through the    6d 61 6e 20 74 68 72 6f 75 67 68 20 74 68 65 20
neck with one of   6e 65 63 6b 20 77 69 74 68 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66
 your Silhouette   20 79 6f 75 72 20 53 69 6c 68 6f 75 65 74 74 65
s..[4z<BR>.[39;4   73 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52 3e 1b 5b 33 39 3b 34
9m.[0;10m.[4z<!E   39 6d 1b 5b 30 3b 31 30 6d 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 21 45
N hp 2026 publis   4e 20 68 70 20 32 30 32 36 20 70 75 62 6c 69 73
h>.[4z<!EN xp 36   68 3e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 21 45 4e 20 78 70 20 33 36
2564 publish>.[4   32 35 36 34 20 70 75 62 6c 69 73 68 3e 1b 5b 34
z<!EN gp 271 pub   7a 3c 21 45 4e 20 67 70 20 32 37 31 20 70 75 62
lish>.[4z<!EN ma   6c 69 73 68 3e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 21 45 4e 20 6d 61
xhp 2069 publish   78 68 70 20 32 30 36 39 20 70 75 62 6c 69 73 68
>.[4z<!EN maxgp    3e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 21 45 4e 20 6d 61 78 67 70 20
361 publish>ÿù     33 36 31 20 70 75 62 6c 69 73 68 3e ff f9

Incoming packet: 75 (49 bytes) at Friday, April 24, 2009, 12:59:04 PM

You killed the i   59 6f 75 20 6b 69 6c 6c 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 69
nteresting Fang    6e 74 65 72 65 73 74 69 6e 67 20 46 61 6e 67 20
salesman..[4z<BR   73 61 6c 65 73 6d 61 6e 2e 1b 5b 34 7a 3c 42 52
>                  3e


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