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Posted by Romantic   (3 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Tue 14 Nov 2017 05:51 AM (UTC)
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As a user, I'd like new updates from the MUD server to be inserted at the top of the terminal so that I can keep my eyes looking at the top part of my monitor instead of the bottom part.

Discuss!
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #1 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:07 AM (UTC)

Amended on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:30 AM (UTC) by Fiendish

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in half.
some arbitrary transposition of chunks
because the server broke a packet

to look like this, or, worse yet,
elsewhere. Unless you want everything
and therefore also the solution lies
end up doing, I promise that the problem
instead of your neck. But whatever you
could, for instance, try moving your eyes
seeking relief from neck strain. You
and this is not the right approach to
perhaps you are chasing the wrong detail
aimed at the top of your screen, but
ergonomic desire to keep your sightline
works like that. I understand the
request. There's a reason that nothing
reconsidering the implications of this
you've thought this through. I suggest
significant effort. I don't think that
out of order, impossible to read without
series of backwards lines, broken and
way, what you'd end up with is a garbled
make sense. If any client worked that
What you're asking for doesn't even

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Romantic   (3 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #2 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:28 AM (UTC)
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You are considering only the 'line' as the update unit. Assuming some sort of block separator can be identified, then it wouldn't be that garbled.

Obviously, that's the hard part, defining the set of rules to separate the blocks. If that can be expressed, then what's needed from the client is the ability to insert the blocks at the top.
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #3 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:32 AM (UTC)

Amended on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:39 AM (UTC) by Fiendish

Message
Quote:

You are considering only the 'line' as the update unit.

me. Wait, no, you didn't read the end.
Oh, of course, you're right. I hadn't
thought of that. How silly of


Quote:
Assuming some sort of block separator can be identified

Ok, draft the spec and then write a server for it. Then I'll help make a plugin for this, though I don't promise to stop making fun of the idea. Or rotate your monitor 180 degrees and use utf-8 to
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Quote:
it wouldn't be that garbled

How garbled is acceptable?

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Posted by Romantic   (3 posts)  [Biography] bio
Date Reply #4 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Doesn't TCP present data ordered correctly to the application? If again, you imply by this scenario that the rule could be split by packets, that wouldn't work either.

Another way to think of this would be client side paging.
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #5 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 06:55 PM (UTC)

Amended on Tue 14 Nov 2017 07:04 PM (UTC) by Fiendish

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Quote:
If you imply by this scenario that the rule could be split by packets

I don't. There is no valid rule without server cooperation, and no server supports this. Write the server first.

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #6 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 10:54 PM (UTC)
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See here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9626

That is a plugin that captures "exits" lines and puts them at the top of the window. It only shows one line, but it could be modified to show more, or perhaps one is all you want.

There is also a plugin for capturing chat (multiple lines) and showing them in a window you can put anywhere: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10728

So assuming that you can identify what lines are you are really interested in (and that could be all of them) this would put the most recent ones at the top as requested. Of course, they would scroll off fairly quickly.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #7 on Tue 14 Nov 2017 11:29 PM (UTC)
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Fiendish said:

in half.
some arbitrary transposition of chunks
because the server broke a packet
to look like this, or, worse yet,
...


How did you even do that? Manually? Or using some sort of reverse sort?

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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Posted by Fiendish   USA  (1,641 posts)  [Biography] bio   Global Moderator
Date Reply #8 on Wed 15 Nov 2017 05:21 AM (UTC)

Amended on Wed 15 Nov 2017 05:24 AM (UTC) by Fiendish

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Nick Gammon said:

Fiendish said:

in half.
some arbitrary transposition of chunks
because the server broke a packet
to look like this, or, worse yet,
...


How did you even do that? Manually? Or using some sort of reverse sort?

rofl. :) Where there's a will, there's a way! (manually. I'm quite proud of the cleverness in the first, last?, three lines.)

https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
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Posted by Nick Gammon   Australia  (21,322 posts)  [Biography] bio   Forum Administrator
Date Reply #9 on Wed 15 Nov 2017 06:04 AM (UTC)
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It was a bit like reading Finnegans Wake.

- Nick Gammon

www.gammon.com.au, www.mushclient.com
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