Err...

The release notes for 3.51 say that you added the send to special... I.E. the long awaited output windows... I got 3.58, I didn't see anything different, is there a setup thing I need to do first? Or is it not working to your prefectionist standards?

For starters, it was a fix to 'send to special', and second, 'send to special' is not (as far as I know) meant to have anything to do with the "long awaited output windows".
The release notes state:

From the 3.51 release notes...




This says to me, that he was going to be implementing output windows in this release, I was curious if thats still on hold, or if there is something I'm not doing so that I'm not getting that function.

'Output Window' refers to where your output normally appears. I am not sure what 'pane' refers too though, unless that is the infobar. Secondary windows are still in development last I heard.

Pane will eventually (if everything goes well) be his 'improved notepad windows' which allow fonts, colors, etc etc.
Or at least, thats what I get out of it.

No, you aren't missing anything. He hasn't completely implimented it yet. He had, but then had some problems with something, and decided not to release it yet.

That snuck into the release notes. :) However it is still useful for (say) notepads.

I had problems with panes, so they are not in.

However various alternatives now present themselves. For one thing you can colour, resize and change the fonts for notepad windows, so they can be made a bit more like the pane idea.

Also, the extra standalone window I described recently would go a long way towards doing that. If you took those ideas and made (say) a rich-text control window you effectively have a pane.

Notepad window color/font is on a notepad only basis. It isnt like the infobar where you can change font/color midway through though. Correct?

I suppose I could just check when I get to a computer with MC.

That is correct. For multiple colours you would need to do the external window idea. I may do an example of that soon, although the concept is pretty simple.

That's nifty, The problem I had with notepad, was trying to use multiple pads... It didn't work to well.

Also in order to colorize the notepad I would have to switch to Lua, which while Lua sounds amazing and incredible, I lack the programing skills to convert my VBscripts into Lua Scripts.

Actually.. While Nick has gone 'way' overboard with Lua, the function calls for coloring the notepad, getting system metrics, etc. are mushclient funtions, not Lua, so they should work in any available language. Most of the recent examples have simply been in Lua, which may be the reason you are a tad confused.

That's correct. Almost all the new functions are still for every available language. If you see them in the functions documentation they are not language-specific.

When you say external stand-alone window, do you mean like the one I made? Why is everyone ignoring that? It does everything you want.

Don't worry Poromenos, sometimes I spend hours working on things and then practically no-one uses them. The colour customisation on this forum, for example. So far only two people out of 2,297 have tried that.

I think that it's not quite what people were expecting. It's fairly hard to do, and besides, a site has its own color schemes. People want to have customized colors for their own forums, not customize their colors on somebody else's forums (especially if they have to edit colors themselves and not pick from a scheme.)

You asked for colour customisation and that is what I did. I am prepared to make themes too if someone puts together a nice batch of related colours, however as I said, only two people have attempted any colour changes (you being one) so it doesn't seem as if there is much call for it.

I didn't mean on a per-user basis, though. I was thinking more along the lines of somebody installing the forum being able to customize the colors for everybody, e.g. setting up the forums for BMud and having a color scheme matching the main site. To be honest I wasn't quite expecting a system letting every user set their own colors. :)

I tried changing the colors around a bit here but frankly it just didn't look right; after all this is your site with its own branding and color schemes, so the forum should share that same overall design. But, this could be a way to let other forum users (i.e. people who install the software) to let the forum's appearance match the rest of the site.